tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3590628055918372867.post4788036817722574130..comments2023-03-10T03:23:19.853-05:00Comments on Bozat's BarcaLounge: Implications, Debating Points & Strategies: What Tea Partiers Really Want | By Jonathan Haidt - WSJ.comBozat, The Laughing Prophethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10798722678204971908noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3590628055918372867.post-78214045442637842682010-10-22T15:37:11.702-04:002010-10-22T15:37:11.702-04:00I see Fandango pssed his Advanced Polemics 202 co...I see Fandango pssed his Advanced Polemics 202 course with an A+ LOLBozat, The Laughing Prophethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798722678204971908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3590628055918372867.post-36042157346769684052010-10-21T20:58:47.779-04:002010-10-21T20:58:47.779-04:00Not to mention the fact that these "new"...Not to mention the fact that these "new" party lines that have been drawn across in ever more acerbic, fundamental ways as a means to skip over true discourse. Most talking heads call foul when someone on the other side of the fence says something mean, but they always seem to forget that discourse is not something that innately exists in government (and never really has), but is in fact something that is continually in need of being strived for. The pundits get louder, the game gets more contrived, and at the end of the day, it's still the same snake oil.<br /><br />The only reason there is more to worry about is that all issues being trumpeted by either side are being stamped with a "Homeric Epic Battle" that lends itself to an overblown, self-absorbed sense of direness that harkens back to more masturbatorial Manifest Destiny fantasies.<br /> <br />Like the aforementioned, Tea Partiers in general can't seem to be able to acquiesce to the idea that self-determination and "God-given" are not in the same philosophical camp, except when it comes to the fact that we're taught from birth that "I/he/she/we deserve this," in any given situation as a matter of the above mentioned American Karma.Graham Fandangonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3590628055918372867.post-22523145766993546612010-10-21T13:28:30.123-04:002010-10-21T13:28:30.123-04:00Also, note how nicely this quote takes direct aim ...Also, note how nicely this quote takes direct aim at exploiting Libertarians' deeply held convictions about individual liberty. <br /><br />Get Libertarians to admit the verity that ignorance is restrictive of freedom, and then show them how conservatives' positions flowing from their karmic beliefs ignore what their choices would entail, and you're more than halfway home to bringing them onto our side.Bozat, The Laughing Prophethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798722678204971908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3590628055918372867.post-58200056593339379652010-10-21T13:18:03.843-04:002010-10-21T13:18:03.843-04:00An apt quote that both underscores my own views, A...An apt quote that both underscores my own views, AND explains why I tend to invoke ignorance so often as a primary defect of the far right:<br /><br />"The ground for taking ignorance to be restrictive of freedom is that it causes people to make choices which they would not have made if they had seen what the realization of their choices involved."<br />- Sir Alfred Jules Ayer (1910–1989), British philosopher, from "The Concept of Freedom," The Meaning of Life and Other Essays (1990).Bozat, The Laughing Prophethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798722678204971908noreply@blogger.com